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What you should know about lathe cut records?

The Process In Getting Started

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Mastering the Audio

Before cutting can begin, the audio needs to be mastered specifically for vinyl records. Mastering for vinyl involves making adjustments to the audio to ensure it doesn't have excessive high frequencies. This  includes equalization to prevent excessive highs, bass which can cause the needle to skip, and using a limiter to ensure the audio doesn't distort when played back.

The Cutting Process

The cutting process for pressed vinyl:

  1. Lacquer Preparation: A blank lacquer disc, usually made of aluminum coated with a layer of lacquer, is placed on a turntable.
  2. Cutting Lathe: A cutting lathe is used to cut the audio grooves into the lacquer. This lathe is equipped with a cutting head that holds a stylus, usually made from sapphire or diamond, which vibrates in response to the audio signal.
  3. Making Grooves: As the turntable spins the lacquer, the cutting head moves across the surface. The vibrating stylus cuts grooves on the lacquer, vibrating the stylus based on the audio signal. These grooves contain all the audio needed to reproduce the sound when played back.
  4. Process: This process is continuous and happens in real-time as the audio signal is fed to the cutting head. The entire side of a record is cut in one pass.

Types of Record Cutting

There are two main types of record cutting:

  1. Lathe-Cutting: This method involves cutting individual blank discs, often done for small runs or custom records. Each record is cut one at a time, but is time-consuming. This is the best way to make your own vinyl record if you only need one or a few copies, here at NY LATHE CUTS  we specialize in 7 inch custom lathe cut records, with my experience for over 50 years cutting lacquers!
  2. Pressing: For larger production runs, the lacquer master is used to make metal stampers. These stampers are then used in a pressing plant to mass-produce records.

Final Steps

After the grooves are cut, the lacquer master undergoes several additional steps if it’s being used for pressing records:

  1. Electroplating: The lacquer is electroplated to make a metal negative, known as the father, which can be used to make multiple positive molds (mothers) and then multiple stampers.
  2. Pressing: These stampers are then used to press the grooves on vinyl that is heated and molded for the final vinyl records.

Lathe-cutting vs Pressed Records

The difference between lathe-cutting and pressed records is the methods used to create the grooves that store the audio information. Here's a detailed comparison:

Lathe-Cutting

Process:

  • Individual Cutting: Each record is cut one at a time. A stylus (typically diamond or sapphire) vibrates in response to an audio signal, carving or embossing grooves directly into a blank vinyl disc or materials like polycarbonate.
  • Real-Time: The audio is played in real-time as the lathe cuts the grooves into the disc.

Advantages:

  • Customization: Each record can be highly customized with unique track lists, special messages, ect..
  • Small Runs: Ideal for producing small quantities, even a single copy, without the need for expensive setup processes.
  • Quick Turnaround: Faster to produce since there’s no need to create and prepare stampers.

Disadvantages:

  • Sound Quality: People have often said "they are lower fidelity compared to pressed records", that was in 2015, today with my embossing process this is NOT true anymore, they often said "they may have more surface noise and inconsistencies because the process is manual and can vary from record to record", not at all, with our semi automated Scully lathe every record is identical.
  • Durability:  especially those made from materials other than traditional vinyl, they have said, "might be less durable", NOT true, polycarbonate is as durable and not prone to wear and warping over time.
  • Cost per Unit: More expensive per unit when producing larger quantities compared to pressed records.

Advantages:

  • Sound Quality Pressed Vinyl: Generally higher fidelity with more consistent sound across all copies. Pressed records have less surface noise depending the quality of the vinyl used such as re-cycled vinyl.
  • Economies of Scale: Cost-effective for large runs. The initial setup cost is high, but the cost per unit decreases significantly with higher quantities.

Disadvantages:

  • Setup Cost: High initial costs for creating stampers and setting up the pressing process make it impractical for small runs.
  • Turnaround Time: Typically takes months to produce due to the complexity of the setup and the potential for bottlenecks in the pressing plant.
  • Less Customization: While still customization in terms of artwork and labels, every copy in a pressing run will be identical.

Our Embossed Lathe Cuts Don't Sound Hollow Or Noisy

THE QUALITY OF OUR LATHE CUTS

 

Lathe cut records are made from clear or Black Polycarbonate plastic and are cut individually each time. They are made by using a record lathe to cut grooves on the discs. These lathes are commonly used in the vinyl manufacturing process to cut the lacquer master discs used to make metal stamps.


Disk

My lathe cuts are etched onto clear or black polycarbonate discs. I buy 7.5" x 7.5" square polycarbonate sheets in bulk and trim the squares on our circular cutting machine. These discs are the same as standard record size of 1/16" thick x 7" in diameter, technically they are the RIAA industry standard diameter of 6-7/8 inches. The records are more durable and less likely to warp.


Needles

I manufacture sapphire needles for embossing. This particular needle allows me to cut or emboss around 300 discs before it starts to show the effects of ware.


Lubricant

Before cutting the record, it is essential to clean off any residue left by the protective "Peel-Off" plastic film. You must remove the invisible adhesive film left behind. I have found that using lighter fluid to clean off this residue works best, and don't be mislead, lighter fluid dose not soften or lubricate polycarbonate it evaporates very quickly. I don't use "Turtle Wax or DW-40" either, I always emboss dry at room temperature and no heat lamps.


How long do they last?

Records made of polycarbonate are the same type of plastic used in CD's, but CD polycarbonate is a bit more brittle. They are both much more durable than acetate lacquer and can be played over and over again without any noticeable loss of sound quality.


How long is the turnaround time?

A lathe cut record is an instant vinyl record. My lathe cuts turnaround time is 2 days for 10 copies. Lathe cutting is the fastest way to produce a record. A vinyl record can be made in a matter of minutes, whereas a custom vinyl pressing can take several weeks. Because the plating and pressing process is skipped, time is saved with lathe cuts.


The length of the audio program will determine how long it takes to make each physical copy. The vibrations of the cutter head's stylus are etched directly onto the surface of the flat disc. If a song is 4 minutes long, it will take 4 minutes plus set-up time to adjust audio levels and compression.


How's the sound quality of the Lathe-cut record?

My lathe-cut records can have the same sound quality as pressed vinyl, the longer the song, let say 5 minutes or more, the lower the volume it has to be recorded. Every lathe cut will sound the same from the first to the last copy. I have 50 years experience is the key to making a quality disc every time.


You can order lathe-cut vinyl without minimum?

In 1970, releasing vinyl records was only feasible. The expense associated with pressing records made it impossible for record pressing plants to offer vinyl pressing without minimums. There was no minimum order for lathe-cut records due to the low cost. 


No need for outsourcing, as everything is done in-house. This also allows independent recording artists to have the vinyl release. You can order (1) or (25),and have your music on vinyl in the right quantity at a great price. Lathe cuts are done with out heat lamps or oils.


Embossed records sound good as pressed vinyl records with no hiss clicks or pops.

Embossed lathe cuts have been recorded on polycarbonate sheets of plastic for many years since the 1980's, they have earned a bad reputation since then, because they were always embossed with a tungsten carbide steel stylus.


Many have tried over the years different techniques to improve embossing, by using a heat lamp, Turtle wax, furniture polish, motor oil, DW40. I don't use any of that, I emboss dry, and at room temperature and it works great.


Lighter fluid should only be use for cleaning the disc before embossing, the peel-off protective film leaves an invisible residue which causes scoring with the Westrex stereo cutter head's advance ball, if you use any other cutter head, no need to clean the polycarbonate.


A lathe cut, If recorded at a louder volume will cause the record to skip randomly, the same goes for stereo recorded embossed records, they will skip randomly. The average level of a microgroove LP's recorded at 33 rpm is 7cm lateral cut, is the same level I use.

Many have asked me, is there's a difference in the sound quality between black polycarbonate and clear? the answer is no, the sound is the same.


Anti-skating should be adjusted for best results. If your playback stylus is 3 grams, the the anti-skate adjustment should be 3 grams also.

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